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		<title>By: Funkyblossoms</title>
		<link>https://www.wanderingshepherd.org/2011/11/19/more-victims/#comment-598</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, C.  Where were you when we were going through this?!  Oh yeah, @@@ ....wish you had been here in ***.  My daughter is a survivor of rape and sexual abuse at the hands of an 18 year old man.  He is currently serving 3 years and 3 months in prison for his crimes against our daughter and another girl.  My daughter was 13 when the abuse began.  I cannot tell you how many times we tried to get the facts set straight through this event in our lives.  We were gag ordered by the elders in our church, M being one of them because of peace and gossip (misconstrued at best).  We still live with the lingering effects of others gossiping and having our integrity questioned.  I will not stand by in silence IF I am needed to be a voice of reason.  This is enough of this chicken stance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, C.  Where were you when we were going through this?!  Oh yeah, @@@ &#8230;.wish you had been here in ***.  My daughter is a survivor of rape and sexual abuse at the hands of an 18 year old man.  He is currently serving 3 years and 3 months in prison for his crimes against our daughter and another girl.  My daughter was 13 when the abuse began.  I cannot tell you how many times we tried to get the facts set straight through this event in our lives.  We were gag ordered by the elders in our church, M being one of them because of peace and gossip (misconstrued at best).  We still live with the lingering effects of others gossiping and having our integrity questioned.  I will not stand by in silence IF I am needed to be a voice of reason.  This is enough of this chicken stance.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>https://www.wanderingshepherd.org/2011/11/19/more-victims/#comment-593</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First regarding M: M is a coward and a control freak, period. These are two sides of the same malignant coin. The impulse to &quot;stuff&quot; bad news or anything else that threatens our neat, climate-controlled, self interest arises from fear - the kind of fear that perfect love casteth out. Such fear, entertained long enough, gives rise to cowardice (i.e. the devil wins). 

When evil is ignored (or tolerated) to promote&quot;peace&quot; you can be sure that there is no comprehension of the vast grace that our God and Father has extended to His children and, consequently, no impetus to embrace His mercy and let the world&#039;s chips fall where they may.  M is, in the last analysis, a pathetic creature unwilling and unworthy of the considerable responsibility which has been given him.

As to your apprentice sexual predator: this MUST be addressed and sooner rather than later. This is an area where I am far better versed than I ever wanted to be and I can share a few facts that may help put things into prospective: 1. the recidivism rate among adult sexual predators is nearly 100%. (Shep&#039;s home state now provides that certain sex offenders can be incarcerated indefinitely even if they have served the prescribed time for any crimes of which they have been convicted.)  2, The predator&#039;s capacity for deceiving himself and (some) others is nearly limitless. (think Michael Jackson and Jerry Sandusky). 3. I am aware of NO evidence, scientific or anecdotal, that would indicate that these criminal tendencies are ever &quot;outgrown&quot; or get better on their own.  4. The kind of serial behavior we are talking about is not some semi-normal testosterone poisoning that teen-aged boys sometimes go through. It is evil behavior intended to hurt and humiliate and establish dominance. 5. Finally, you have heard, I&#039;m sure, that &quot;hurting people hurt people&quot;. I have never known of an instance of sexual abuse such as you describe where the perpetrator was not, at some point in their life, subject to the same sort of abuse.  It almost always &quot;runs in the family&quot;.

You have your work cut out for you but you need to be aware that if this is not addressed now there will be many more victims down the road. I am praying for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First regarding M: M is a coward and a control freak, period. These are two sides of the same malignant coin. The impulse to &#8220;stuff&#8221; bad news or anything else that threatens our neat, climate-controlled, self interest arises from fear &#8211; the kind of fear that perfect love casteth out. Such fear, entertained long enough, gives rise to cowardice (i.e. the devil wins). </p>
<p>When evil is ignored (or tolerated) to promote&#8221;peace&#8221; you can be sure that there is no comprehension of the vast grace that our God and Father has extended to His children and, consequently, no impetus to embrace His mercy and let the world&#8217;s chips fall where they may.  M is, in the last analysis, a pathetic creature unwilling and unworthy of the considerable responsibility which has been given him.</p>
<p>As to your apprentice sexual predator: this MUST be addressed and sooner rather than later. This is an area where I am far better versed than I ever wanted to be and I can share a few facts that may help put things into prospective: 1. the recidivism rate among adult sexual predators is nearly 100%. (Shep&#8217;s home state now provides that certain sex offenders can be incarcerated indefinitely even if they have served the prescribed time for any crimes of which they have been convicted.)  2, The predator&#8217;s capacity for deceiving himself and (some) others is nearly limitless. (think Michael Jackson and Jerry Sandusky). 3. I am aware of NO evidence, scientific or anecdotal, that would indicate that these criminal tendencies are ever &#8220;outgrown&#8221; or get better on their own.  4. The kind of serial behavior we are talking about is not some semi-normal testosterone poisoning that teen-aged boys sometimes go through. It is evil behavior intended to hurt and humiliate and establish dominance. 5. Finally, you have heard, I&#8217;m sure, that &#8220;hurting people hurt people&#8221;. I have never known of an instance of sexual abuse such as you describe where the perpetrator was not, at some point in their life, subject to the same sort of abuse.  It almost always &#8220;runs in the family&#8221;.</p>
<p>You have your work cut out for you but you need to be aware that if this is not addressed now there will be many more victims down the road. I am praying for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Funkyblossoms</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will not stand by and have a predator roam free again...not when we know he is there.  My daughter is a survivor, of something she never should&#039;ve experienced.....If I need to be a voice of reason, I will be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not stand by and have a predator roam free again&#8230;not when we know he is there.  My daughter is a survivor, of something she never should&#8217;ve experienced&#8230;..If I need to be a voice of reason, I will be.</p>
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		<title>By: shepherd</title>
		<link>https://www.wanderingshepherd.org/2011/11/19/more-victims/#comment-591</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Natalie--thanks for your concern.  The events were not traumatic, but were &quot;awkward&quot; and &quot;creepy.&quot;  She will be fine.  The real issue is what happens after this predator gets even more comfortable.  He gropes now; what is next?  He groped two; how many more are uncounted?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie&#8211;thanks for your concern.  The events were not traumatic, but were &#8220;awkward&#8221; and &#8220;creepy.&#8221;  She will be fine.  The real issue is what happens after this predator gets even more comfortable.  He gropes now; what is next?  He groped two; how many more are uncounted?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>https://www.wanderingshepherd.org/2011/11/19/more-victims/#comment-589</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shepherd,
Most police I know carry flashlights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shepherd,<br />
Most police I know carry flashlights.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to add to my last comment I&#039;m terribly sorry to hear your daughter is a victim. I hit &quot;post&quot; too soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to add to my last comment I&#8217;m terribly sorry to hear your daughter is a victim. I hit &#8220;post&#8221; too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that you have reported these incidents to the police, especially since you say you know &quot;for certain.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that you have reported these incidents to the police, especially since you say you know &#8220;for certain.&#8221;</p>
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